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We are living in such challenging and uncertain times - what might it take to make us feel happier and more trusting about what lies ahead?

Can we discover a more effective system that will prioritise our real security needs? One that focuses on nuclear disarmament, protects our environment and creates more humanitarian jobs?

In this conversation, Dr Reb Eleanor Johnson, Extinction Rebellion campaigner and President of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN), explored ways in which we might dismantle today’s interconnected issues on both a personal and political level.